Lars Larson- KXL Tuesday, Nov. 27, 2012 - 2:45- 3 p.m. PST
(this show is syndicated nationally)

Interview with Dr. Jay Rosenbloom, pediatrician with Pediatric Associates
of the Northwest.

Lars:  Let me get Jay on from Portland. Jay, you're a pediatrician. You
want to weigh in on the conversation, please?

Dr. Jay Rosenbloom: I do. I, actually, as a pediatrician do understand why
parents are confused, why they're upset. You know what? Parents want
what's best for their child. They want to be their child's advocate and we
in the medical community have not done a great job of good communications,
of listening to their concerns. The bottom line is, in the end, we
actually do know the science and that vaccines are much safer than the
alternative, that is not vaccinating.  Or else, we wouldn't do it. I'm the
father of three children and all of my kids have had their vaccines.  But
I do understand where parents' frustration has come.  But there are people
out there who say, "Well until the science agrees with my theory, I'm not
going to listen, because you're wrong. And that's not the way science
works.  If people want to know, is it safe, then let's look at it. Let's
look at the history and say, oh my goodness, 500 fewer kids die from
measles a year now with the vaccine than without. So when we look at those
things, we see that the vaccines saves thousands of lives with very, very
little risk.  Otherwise, we wouldn't do it. But I do understand why
parents are frustrated and confused.

Lars: Well, is it because they're adopting a standard, like the one I was
talking about that the FDA has, an unrealistic standard that they don't
apply anywhere else in their lives.  You know, the mom who would put her
kids in the car to drive to the grocery store, even though you could point
out, "Mom, by putting your kids in the car for a trip to the grocery
store, instead of leaving them home with the older child, they're probably
more likely to die. Because, every time you take a trip in a car,  there's
a statistical  likelihood or statistical chance they will get hit and be
killed.  And yet, people don't live their lives that way.  They know it's
not that likely that they will be killed on the way to the grocery store,
so they go.  And then they go to the doctor's office and they say, "I'm
not taking that medicine, doc, or giving it to my kids until it's
absolutely proved that it cannot do them harm." And proving that negative
is awfully tough.

Dr. Jay Rosenbloom: Well, it's impossible. You can't prove a negative. You
can't prove that something doesn't cause something else, even if it's one
in a million. And I completely agree with you,  that it's like getting in
the car only with this:  So, driving to the grocery store doesn't have
health benefits, whereas the vaccines prevent horrible diseases. I've seen
children die from some of these diseases that we're trying to prevent and
it is so tragic and preventable.

Lars: Doc, I'm glad for the endorsement of the idea because that's all I
care about. And when I saw this, that the company had fired these people,
I thought, well, good for the company having the guts to say, if you
aren't going to get the kind of flu shot that will protect our patients
from you having the flu or make it less likely for you to get the flu,
then we're not going to employ you. I actually think it was a courageous
move on the part of the company.  Doctor, thank you for the call. ###